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it goes into education and politics and across our society. i think this is just kind of one manifestation of it. >> rose: instant results and instant gratification. >> america is the land of instant gratification. and so taking a much longer-term perspective we can make the investments. we can bring the kinds of solutions, we can invest in innovation without being kind of bound to this 89-day planning psych that will public companies are sort of afflicted by. we're much more focused on the long term and want to make investments. so in the last five or six years we also spent $13 billion making acquisitions, building up these new areas which are now very substantial businesses for us. >> rose: why shouldn't i be critical of michael dell? because he's been there -- even though you weren't the c.e.o. and you went through that period. i mean, you missed things. you did not get -- you didn't see all the value of tablets. you didn't see all the value of smart phones and that's exploded across the tech landscape. most people today think that, you kn
it goes into education and politics and across our society. i think this is just kind of one manifestation of it. >> rose: instant results and instant gratification. >> america is the land of instant gratification. and so taking a much longer-term perspective we can make the investments. we can bring the kinds of solutions, we can invest in innovation without being kind of bound to this 89-day planning psych that will public companies are sort of afflicted by. we're much more...
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that would include things like infrastructure, education, r&d. we spent about 30% on transfer payments to the elderly. we now spend 68% on transfer payments but investments are down to 15%. so, i think to larry's point, what did we get out of the investment? we got the internet, gps, the human genome. >> that is where you agree? >> i totally agree. if you look at the sequester -- >> investments are worthwhile and crucial to our future. >> yes, but we are cutting the investment so we can continue to let transfer payments to the elderly grow at a rapid rate. we cannot do both. >> or we are cutting the investments because we do not have a realistic look at where taxes, which you are prepared to have a realistic look at. yes? in other words, you are not coming here as a representative, as you often express, by the 13 members of congress, although you had reservations about the health fund and it defunding the health care even though you express reservations about its. you thought it was silly, maybe to use your own words, to try to attach it defundin
that would include things like infrastructure, education, r&d. we spent about 30% on transfer payments to the elderly. we now spend 68% on transfer payments but investments are down to 15%. so, i think to larry's point, what did we get out of the investment? we got the internet, gps, the human genome. >> that is where you agree? >> i totally agree. if you look at the sequester -- >> investments are worthwhile and crucial to our future. >> yes, but we are cutting the...
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probably half of them, two-thirds will get a decent education, the rest not so good education. that is not only a problem, it's a tragedy. so i think recognizing a problem and people like yourself who are leaders in that just getting the word off. this is not acceptable. this is bad for everybody. that's the first part. that's starting to happen now. there's several things happening to make it better. i think that's very positive. >> rose: are you convinced that we have the will to do what's she is in the will? >> well, i think -- if more people recognize the problem then they say we can do something about it and then things will happen. we're between phase 1 and phase 2. examples, teach for america, there's many examples like national mentoring. the programs that are starting to make a difference you can -- people really recognize it. people want to invest. like in the stock market they want to invest in the companies doing well, not badly so if they say this is a waste, why should i invest? it's hopeless. you have to take away that hopelessness and say we can make this a lot
probably half of them, two-thirds will get a decent education, the rest not so good education. that is not only a problem, it's a tragedy. so i think recognizing a problem and people like yourself who are leaders in that just getting the word off. this is not acceptable. this is bad for everybody. that's the first part. that's starting to happen now. there's several things happening to make it better. i think that's very positive. >> rose: are you convinced that we have the will to do...
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decent them get a education. the rest not so good. that is a huge tragedy. i think recognizing the problem, and people like yourself is a leader in that. this is not acceptable. this is bad for everybody. that is starting to happen. several things are happening to make it better. that is very positive. >> are you convinced we have the will to do what is necessary? the will. >> the more people the recognize the problem, then they say we can do something about it. then things will happen. i think we are between phase one and phase two. teach for america, many examples like national mentoring. the programs that are starting to make a difference. people recognize it works. people want to invest. they want to invest in companies that are doing well. if they say this is a waste. it is hopeless. you have to take away the hopelessness and say we can make it better. there is examples in massachusetts with these charter schools. we have some district schools. they are now the top of the state. these things work. >> not all of the results is as good. >> some of the ear
decent them get a education. the rest not so good. that is a huge tragedy. i think recognizing the problem, and people like yourself is a leader in that. this is not acceptable. this is bad for everybody. that is starting to happen. several things are happening to make it better. that is very positive. >> are you convinced we have the will to do what is necessary? the will. >> the more people the recognize the problem, then they say we can do something about it. then things will...
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grants, investments in education. so you're also having the seed corn eating problem. >> rose: okay, so there are lots of things that come out of all this. number one, i hear you, you know? and i think other people recognize the problem we face, you know? but you're raising -- you're basically saying to young people "you've got to do something. you've got to get organized. otherwise you're going to face a crushing burden." >> yes, they're going to. >> rose: and you will have to pay more and they won't -- you'll have to pay more and you won't get out as much because people who are older are getting out what they were promised. >> yeah. it's one of the things i bristle sat that i've read in some of these things that i'm anti-entitlement. >> rose: i'm going to get at that. >> i'm not anti-entitlement. i want youth today to enjoy the benefits of the social security net and the -- that retirees today enjoy. and if we continue to share the pie we t way we're doing it there's going to be nothing left for the youth of today.
grants, investments in education. so you're also having the seed corn eating problem. >> rose: okay, so there are lots of things that come out of all this. number one, i hear you, you know? and i think other people recognize the problem we face, you know? but you're raising -- you're basically saying to young people "you've got to do something. you've got to get organized. otherwise you're going to face a crushing burden." >> yes, they're going to. >> rose: and you...
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somehow, you know, both the united states and all israel to shores with gaza and west bank with aid, education and kindness, i would find it interested to see who will get angry about that in the other side n the fictional world a if it could go not real world, look, man, great presidents read shakespeare for ideas. they read imson, they raid the classics. the classics come from people, just people like our writers, just people like you and me. >> do you wish you could have this conversation with the in the. >> i'm hoping he's watching! >> rose: he might be. he might be. >> of course i wish it. of course i wish it. to me it's a thrill that i am in a piece that's actually watched by presidents. this-- this is a piece that both clinton and obama admire. and other-- . >> rose: do you think they admire it because they think hey, first of all it's good drama, good acting, a fascinating plot which you don't know because it takes this direction. but also they admire it because of what you have just articulated, throughout this conversation, hope and optimism. >> i hope so. but first and foremost, the
somehow, you know, both the united states and all israel to shores with gaza and west bank with aid, education and kindness, i would find it interested to see who will get angry about that in the other side n the fictional world a if it could go not real world, look, man, great presidents read shakespeare for ideas. they read imson, they raid the classics. the classics come from people, just people like our writers, just people like you and me. >> do you wish you could have this...
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i was trying to bring a revolution to my country and educate my own people about democracy and freedom and i had not been able to do that to my wife and my mother. he felt that was a lack. they went their separate ways. it was a sad situation. then he met winnie. >> you look at young pictures of winnie mandela, a physically gorgeous woman full of strength and pride -- >> she was an activist. >> an activist in her own right. at that moment in time, they clicked and became an indelible force. with the celebration of all the documentation of mandela being imprisoned for 27 years, sometimes credit is not given to winnie about what she had to endure. those early years of prison, they would go to her house at 2:00 in the morning, shake her down, stripped searcher. a lot of people don't remember you talk about courage and strength, she was in solitary confinement for 18 months. after 27 years in prison, when you grow apart, winnie came out. everyone wanted a piece of him. it had to be lonely for both of them. to this day, i think there is a very great love between the two of them. she is a gr
i was trying to bring a revolution to my country and educate my own people about democracy and freedom and i had not been able to do that to my wife and my mother. he felt that was a lack. they went their separate ways. it was a sad situation. then he met winnie. >> you look at young pictures of winnie mandela, a physically gorgeous woman full of strength and pride -- >> she was an activist. >> an activist in her own right. at that moment in time, they clicked and became an...
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years later and said this about his mother as well i was trying to bring a revolution to my country and educate my own people about democracy and freedom and i hadn't been able to do that to my wife or my mother and he felt that was a lack, and they just went their separate ways and it was a sad situation. >> rose: and then there was. >> then he met win any, and when you see pictures of when any, just a gorgeous woman, full of strength and pride and. >> rose: she was an activist? >> an activist in her own right and what happened was at that particular moment in time, the two of them just clicked and became such an indelible force but with the celebration of all the documentation on mandela being imprisoned 27 years, you know, a lot of times credit is not given to what winney had to endure because those early years of prison, they would go up to the house 2:00 o'clock in the morning and shake her down, strip search her, i.an those two girls were 3 and 1, four and two, and, you know, a lot of people don't remember that you talk about courage and strength, i mean she was in solitary confinement fo
years later and said this about his mother as well i was trying to bring a revolution to my country and educate my own people about democracy and freedom and i hadn't been able to do that to my wife or my mother and he felt that was a lack, and they just went their separate ways and it was a sad situation. >> rose: and then there was. >> then he met win any, and when you see pictures of when any, just a gorgeous woman, full of strength and pride and. >> rose: she was an...